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Re: Flash Video Obsolete With HTML 5? Open Video Standards

John Bogdanski — Tue, 16 Aug 2011 21:19:09 -0000

Has the iPad killed Flash. Why do I have to settle for doing triple the work for a slide gallery which I can make 100x nicer in flash because steve jobs doesn't want to lose money to hulu.

Re: Flash Video Obsolete With HTML 5? Open Video Standards

Minford10 — Wed, 03 Nov 2010 14:47:03 -0000

IE 9 has done a GREAT job of adopting HTML5. Check out the results of the testing:
http://test.w3.org/html/tes...
Surprisingly, IE 9 outclassed Chrome and Firefox with its handling of HTML5.

Re: Flash Video Obsolete With HTML 5? Open Video Standards

Визитки срочно — Tue, 19 Oct 2010 16:41:14 -0000

I agree with ur sentiment on IE, I really wish something would happen to make them say ok if we dont change we'll get left out but because IE comes with windows it will probably never go away

Re: Flash Video Obsolete With HTML 5? Open Video Standards

Визитки срочно — Tue, 19 Oct 2010 16:40:30 -0000

I agree with ur sentiment on IE, I really wish something would happen to make them say ok if we dont change we'll get left out but because IE comes with windows it will probably never go away

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Re: Flash Video Obsolete With HTML 5? Open Video Standards

Sarah Glover — Tue, 15 Jun 2010 18:51:10 -0000

Is there any way to take an interactive component from a video that is in Flash, transfer it to html5 or some other form of video and embed the interactive component into it?

Thanks so much!

Re: Flash Video Obsolete With HTML 5? Open Video Standards

Dave — Sat, 13 Feb 2010 03:13:58 -0000

An interesting article Chris, u seem to be leaning towards keeping flash around until we can be sure that HTML 5 is gonna be a suitable replacement.

I discuss these issue in my article at http://www.tulesblog.com/ex... and I'm more of the opinion that natively supported and standardised anything is a good thing because it should allow us to drop some of this crap and sort out the mess that is the modern web. I'm not specifically referring to Flash, more to stuff like DivX, Quicktime and all that crap but I think that when HTML 5 ripens it will do everything flash can do and better, lets not forget that if we need scripted graphics and animations then we have the canvas tag :)

I agree with ur sentiment on IE, I really wish something would happen to make them say ok if we dont change we'll get left out but because IE comes with windows it will probably never go away.

Re: Flash Video Obsolete With HTML 5? Open Video Standards

Silvia — Sun, 14 Jun 2009 14:23:15 -0000

When you talk about the lack of interactivity in the HTML5 video element, I believe you haven&#039t understood exactly what it is going to enable. Ever heard of Web 2.0? And that it was caused by something called AJAX (asyncrhonous javascript and XML)? Well, right now Flash and AJAX don&#039t interact easily, because the Flash programmer has to explicitly implement an interface to javascript and then the Web page needs to interact with that. With HTML5 video, there is a standard javascript interface to video. In addition, the video is actually part of the Web page and reacts to CSS and javascript commands - such as the demo that mike pointed out. There are many more impressive demos - I have started making a list on my blog: http://blog.gingertech.net/2009/06/12/cool-html5-... .

Re: Flash Video Obsolete With HTML 5? Open Video Standards

Silvia — Sun, 14 Jun 2009 10:23:15 -0000

When you talk about the lack of interactivity in the HTML5 video element, I believe you haven't understood exactly what it is going to enable. Ever heard of Web 2.0? And that it was caused by something called AJAX (asyncrhonous javascript and XML)? Well, right now Flash and AJAX don't interact easily, because the Flash programmer has to explicitly implement an interface to javascript and then the Web page needs to interact with that. With HTML5 video, there is a standard javascript interface to video. In addition, the video is actually part of the Web page and reacts to CSS and javascript commands - such as the demo that mike pointed out. There are many more impressive demos - I have started making a list on my blog: http://blog.gingertech.net/2009/06/12/cool-html5-... .

Re: Flash Video Obsolete With HTML 5? Open Video Standards

Seth Goldstein — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 19:23:55 -0000

I don&#039t see Flash going by the wayside anytime soon. It&#039s going to take a heck of long time for the world of browsers and coders in general to adopt HTML 5 if ever.

I&#039ll believe it when I see it. Though HTML 5 sounds really neat.

-Seth Goldstein
http://www.goldsteinmedia.com/blog
http://www.twitter.com/sethgoldstein

Re: Flash Video Obsolete With HTML 5? Open Video Standards

Mark Robertson — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 16:37:13 -0000

Dana, thanks for the feedback, yes, Christophor has a way with words. Im going to take a look at IE, I tested in in IE6 and didnt have the issues but there are some things that I can do to increase load time and Im working on it ;-) Just for your own experience, I would update to IE8 if I were you, I found it to be much better. I happen to like Chrome and Firefox more, but IE8 is a big improvement over IE7

Re: Flash Video Obsolete With HTML 5? Open Video Standards

Christophor Rick — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 12:48:32 -0000

Thanks for the comments eveyone.

@Dana - Mark is looking into that issue to see if he can replicate it. What version of IE are you using?

@Justin Right now the codecs look like Ogg Theora + Vorbis. It would be best, for a truly open format, if we could have a codec that had no patents filed on it and was completely in the public domain. So that means either the patent holders on Ogg would have to waive their rights or we need to, as a community, agree on something and either build from the ground up or drive the development of an already existing freely available codec. That would then guarantee that it was truly free and readily available to all without things like patents and licensing fees getting in the way.

Re: Flash Video Obsolete With HTML 5? Open Video Standards

Mark Robertson — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 12:37:13 -0000

Re: Flash Video Obsolete With HTML 5? Open Video Standards

mike — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 12:19:00 -0000

"In fact, the HTML 5 Video Tag could very well be a step backward for online video."

Whoa whoa whoa, um... what about that think called javascript?

Check out the demo:
http://videos.mozilla.org/s...

You obviously need a browser that supports , Secondly, i'd like to see flash do that in real time...

Re: Flash Video Obsolete With HTML 5? Open Video Standards

John Dowdell — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 10:22:50 -0000

"Right now I’m installing the Firefox 3.5 beta so I can begin a deeper look into things. Hopefully I’ll have a better vision of the future when I’m done and can give you more accurate prognostications for the future."

Sounds like a good plan. ;-)

jd/adobe

Re: Flash Video Obsolete With HTML 5? Open Video Standards

Christophor Rick — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 08:48:32 -0000

Thanks for the comments eveyone.

@Dana - Mark is looking into that issue to see if he can replicate it. What version of IE are you using?

Re: Flash Video Obsolete With HTML 5? Open Video Standards

Seth Goldstein — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 08:23:55 -0000

I don't see Flash going by the wayside anytime soon. It's going to take a heck of long time for the world of browsers and coders in general to adopt HTML 5 if ever.

I'll believe it when I see it. Though HTML 5 sounds really neat.

-Seth Goldstein
http://www.goldsteinmedia.com/blog
http://www.twitter.com/sethgoldstein

Re: Flash Video Obsolete With HTML 5? Open Video Standards

mike — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 08:19:00 -0000

"In fact, the HTML 5 Video Tag could very well be a step backward for online video."

Whoa whoa whoa, um... what about that think called javascript?

Check out the demo:
http://videos.mozilla.org/s...

You obviously need a browser that supports , Secondly, i'd like to see flash do that in real time...

Re: Flash Video Obsolete With HTML 5? Open Video Standards

Mark Robertson — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 06:31:05 -0000

:-)

Re: Flash Video Obsolete With HTML 5? Open Video Standards

John Dowdell — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 23:22:50 -0000

Sounds like a good plan. ;-)

jd/adobe

Re: Flash Video Obsolete With HTML 5? Open Video Standards

Justin C. — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 20:46:16 -0000

If flash is going to die, what will be the new dominant codec(s)? And how will the browsers decode them? The cool thing about flash is it&#039s the most ubiquitous.

Re: Flash Video Obsolete With HTML 5? Open Video Standards

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Re: Flash Video Obsolete With HTML 5? Open Video Standards

Justin C. — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 16:46:16 -0000

If flash is going to die, what will be the new dominant codec(s)? And how will the browsers decode them? The cool thing about flash is it's the most ubiquitous.

Re: Flash Video Obsolete With HTML 5? Open Video Standards

Dana Bincer — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 15:57:36 -0000